Citizen Advisory Committee Transcript: Dec. 12, 2025
Jennifer Holmes: Good morning, everyone. My name is Jennifer Homes. I'm the compliance director here at the North Carolina Office of Recovery and Resiliency. I'll be assisting with facilitation today. I'd like to thank everyone for joining us today for this public meeting of the Citizen Advisory Committee. Before we begin, I'd like to go over a few housekeeping items. Your line was muted upon entry. For committee members only, please unmute your line should you wish to participate during committee business. During the public comment period, attendees who wish to speak should raise their hand in Webex. Each speaker will have three minutes to share their comments. You can submit written comments through Webex chat, and they will be read during the meeting. We kindly ask everyone to follow the guidelines to maintain a respectful and smooth discussion regarding mitigation efforts. Helping us moderate the chat today will be Bridget Munger, who is Director of Communications and some other leadership individuals from NCORR. The slide deck meetings and agenda have been shared with our CAC members for your reference, and this meeting is being recorded and will be made available on our ReBuild NC website under the CAC Mitigation meeting section. If you have any questions about your application with the Homeowner Recovery Program, please feel free to contact us at 1-888-ASK-RBNC, or reach out to your case manager directly for assistance. Now, I'd like to hand the meeting over to our chairman, Mr. Dontario Hardy, who will begin the formal portion and guide us through today's agenda. Thank you, go ahead, Mr. Hardy.
Mayor Don Hardy: Good to see your smiling faces. I hope you had a great Thanksgiving and all that good stuff. And I know you're looking forward to the Christmas time of year. So having said that, great to see you all, and I hope you're having a good day this morning. Jennifer, I can just go ahead and start with the NCORR updates that we want to do. Do we have an actual quorum?
Jennifer Holmes: We can go through the attendance. So, as I say your name, if you are a CAC committee member, please just say here, so that we can mark and make sure that we do have quorum. So, bear with me one moment. Let me make sure. Alright, Mr. Owen Thomas?
Owen Thomas: Sorry about that. I'm here.
Jennifer Holmes: Jimmy T. Tate? Jeraleen Meritt? Keith Graham? I'll come back to Keith. I do believe he's here because I saw him sign in, so we'll come back to Keith. Charles Wright? We’ll come back to him. Kelley Shinn? Mary Perkins Williams? Dontario Hardy, well you're here, we know that. William D. Rowe? Brad Lovin?
Brad Lovin: Here.
Jennifer Holmes: Thank you. Kitti Hardison?
Kitti Hardison: Here.
Jennifere Holmes: Thank you. Laressa Witt?
Laressa Witt: Here.
Jennifer Holmes: And Lisa R. Williams? Okay, and I'm just going to go back up. Keith Graham, I saw that you kind of dropped off and then came back on. Can you confirm attendance? Keith Graham?
Keith Graham: Here.
Jennifer Holmes: Excellent, thank you. So, it does look like you have quorum, sir. You may continue. Thank you.
Mayor Don Hardy: Alright, thank you much, Jennifer, I do appreciate you and all those that are here so we can establish a quorum. Alright, so in the committee business, we do have a quorum established, so I just want to say thank you for being here. Also, if we – and I actually know who's on the call for the most part – but if we could do brief introductions, that would be good as well. I guess we can start with your team, NCORR, and if you want to do that, Jennifer, whoever is on the call, and then we can go from there, so that we can make sure we know who's on the call.
Jennifer Holmes: Absolutely. So here at the North Carolina Office of Recovery and Resiliency representing NCORR today we have Amanda Stapleton, who is the policy director. We also have Pryor Gibson, who is the director of NCORR. He'll have a few comments for you today. We have Jeff Royal. He's with our HRP program, so he will be assisting here today. And then we have Tracey Colores, community development director, who will be going through her presentation as well. Some other individuals such as Michelle Wiggins and all of them are team members of NCORR. We also have Bridget Munger, communications director, who is here as well. And then of course me, the compliance director, here as well with NCORR, so thank you.
Mayor Don Hardy: Alright, thank you much. Alright, as you said, I do appreciate NCORR and the entire team over at DPS, you guys are amazing. Thank you for what you do each and every day for individuals that need it most across our state, especially, you know, recovery and resilience. Alright, so I just want to repeat the housekeeping rules. For participants, please ensure your microphones are muted. Committee members only should unmute themselves during committee business. All right. So, during this 15-minute span, there'll be a public comment period at the end of the meeting. If you have any questions regarding the Homeowner Recovery Program, we could have someone from the NCORR team reach out to you. Now that we have established the call and we know who everybody is on the call, we can look at the business confirmation and expiring terms. Should I go there?
Jennifer Holmes: Yes, please.
Mayor Don Hardy: Alright, members whose terms expire in May 2026 will receive renewal alerts extending their term to 2028. We currently have 13 members, the government rules require a minimum of 11 voting members, 11. The chairman and vice chair terms will last until May 2026. Information pertaining to the elections will be sent out prior to the next meeting. There are some proposed dates for a spring meeting date on Fridays in May. May 1, 8, 15, 22, and I'm going to go ahead and say the 29th and not the 22nd, due to Memorial Day weekend. So, Fridays on May 1, 8, 15 and 29 are the days that we're looking at to having a meeting. Alright, so and I believe we’ve done a quick intro already, so what we'll do is go to NCORR updates at the present. So, agency updates and overview is Pryor Gibson. Is he good to go? Is he ready?
Pryor Gibson: Yes, sir., we can go.
Jennifer Holmes: Go ahead, Mr. Gibson.
Pryor Gibson: Thank you, Jennifer, and Mr. Chair, Donterio, it's good seeing you, buddy. It's been a while.
Mayor Don Hardy: Hey.
Pryor Gibson: I appreciate what you have had to put up with lately, and we love you, not just at NCORR, but the rest of us that know who you are and appreciate how quickly you can tie a bow tie, my friend. So, I hope to get to see you soon when we're not working.
Mayor Don Hardy: Absolutely, I look forward to working even closer with you guys at some point here as we make some decisions, as I make some decisions.
Pryor Gibson: Good enough, and I'll just say this Mr. Chairman and to the other members of your committee, on behalf of Governor Stein and everybody on our staff, we cannot tell you how much we appreciate what you have done by standing by during some pretty stormy times for NCORR in the last two or three years. It takes a special kind of public servant to stand by and stand your post when you're under as much fire as we had, especially doing the incredibly important work that this team has done. And I would be remiss if I didn't tell the chairs that, you know, I've been here just about a year. And, it is an incredibly competent and conscientious staff that have just, given the financial difficulties we had in November of last year right when I came on board, they have just gone beyond the pale. Mr. Chairman, we are – it’s unofficial – but I will say it out loud and hopefully, it'll be asterisks in the minutes, every homeowner in our program has been assigned a contractor, and by the end of next month, every home will be in construction and NCORR will be on the final trajectory to finish eastern North Carolina recovery as it relates to Matthew and Florence and the purpose of its establishment. We are working hand in hand with the western recovery folks. We're making sure they understand our lessons learned, our mistakes made, and they are off to a tremendous start in the first year. They've already gotten people home. So, we are full and hellbent on getting our homeowners home as quickly as we can, ending NCORR’s mission, hopefully, on time, on budget. That's our trajectory right now. And our biggest dilemma internally is making sure these incredible staff we have find places to go as we start wrapping up NCORR, probably by the end of the summer. So, with that I'll yield back to Jennifer and to you, Mr. Chairman. If anybody has any questions, I have feeble answers, but I will yield to staff to get whatever answers the committee members need, or the public in the public comment period, and we’ll answer very quickly. Thank you.
Jennifer Holmes: Thank you so much Mr. Pryor, we appreciate it. Thank you so much and I will get this started so that we can move on with the presentation. So, let me get everything up. There we go. So, starting with the agency update and action plan, we will have Amanda Stapleton go over that information. Thank you. Go ahead, Amanda.
Amanda Stapleton: Thank you so much for having me. I am Amanda Stapleton. I'm the chief policy officer here at NCORR, and I have a few updates for you. One is that as Pryor had mentioned, [we] just continue to make progress towards completing the Homeowner Recovery Program and utilizing the funds that the legislature very graciously gave to us this time last year. So, we are making significant progress also towards reconciling some larger activities and preparing for the completion of the activities, so you will not see an action plan update for the mitigation grant during this cycle. We will probably talk about that in our next meeting in May when we'll have some bigger updates on some of those larger activities that we're preparing for completion and closure as we enter 2026 and 2027. The Residential Property Elevation fund, which we talked about in the last CAC meeting, has utilized much of its allocated funding. This allowed us to maximize the impact where elevation of rehabilitated or reconstructed structures were required. So, this allowed us a little bit of wiggle room to be able to elevate more than 200 homes to date. So, [we’re] very proud of those elevation efforts and mitigation efforts with this mitigation grant. Next slide. And then for some of our resiliency highlights, the CDDL – Coastal Dynamics Design Lab – continues to work with the State Resilience Office staff. If you'll remember from our last meeting, the Resilience staff moved out of NCORR in July and into DEQ, but we're continuing our relationship with them to make sure that they are still able to utilize the mitigation funding that was earmarked for those mitigation efforts. So, they're supporting development of projects in Tyrell County, and through the CDDL, we’ll be able to see that support come through in different areas. So, the next is that the State Climate Office was also able to ensure functionality of application programming interface, and there's a hot link here in the slide deck for when you receive a copy that takes you to [a] climate projection page on the Resiliency Exchange, which the Resilience team and State Climate Office are very proud of. And lastly Jeff Royal will talk a little bit more in depth about the Buyout Program, and about our demolition efforts that continue for those structures acquired through the Buyout Program. This helps reduce the future flood risk and also improves community resilience, and hopefully, allows some homeowners to get out of those flood zones and be safe in the next storm that is to come. So, those are my updates and I'm happy to answer any questions and just appreciate y'all being here and talking about our mitigation efforts. Thanks Jennifer.
Mayor Don Hardy: You got muted, let's see.
Jennifer Holmes: Apologies. Thank you so much, Amanda, and next we will hear from Jeff Royal for Strategic Buyout. Thanks.
Jeff Royal: Good morning, Mayor Hardy. It's good to see you again.
Mayor Don Hardy: Hey Jeff, good to see you, man, always.
Jeff Royal: No, it wouldn't be a holiday if I didn't get to see you toward the end of the year like this.
Mayor Don Hardy: [inaudible]
Jeff Royal: You get to talk about the Buyout Program again and I want to relay a few things. As you know – I think that everyone knows – we have, as with many other [inaudible] programs because NCORR has multiple programs, a lot of people forget that. This is, you know, it was quite a big operation with a big umbrella with a lot of things going on under it. And we've wound up a lot of them and one of those would be the Buyout Program. But I wanted to give you an update on some of the things that were accomplished in it, and I think it would be advantageous to kind of put in a little bit of context as well. You can see here, you know, we ended up with 122 buyouts across six counties. It would have been five [inaudible] but Dunn [inaudible]. We got most of those in the DRAs and that [inaudible] was a special one. And we would have of obviously loved to have done more in each of these, but you see we in some of the key counties and some of the key areas we did hit pretty hard, in Robeson County [and] Edgecomb, we got a lot of in Columbus of course, we got a lot in there, and Wayne where we always gets some good love, so we always want to make sure we get something in there for them from building houses to buying out properties. So, we got a few taken care of there. Jennifer, that next slide, this'll break it down, I think in a little different way to look at it. What I did here was look at the type of properties that ended up in the Buyout Program and that we were able to complete. You can see we had 50 properties that had structures or homes with people living in them, and 72 were vacant land. Now, if you just take the 50 structures and run them through a matrix of the cost in the HRP program that would have been there for this storm or the next storm to repair replace, we come back to an estimate of around $14.6 million dollars. Now if you look at what we spent on these properties, that will mean that within not only this storm but the next storm, we would have already paid for all that repair and replacement work. Now that doesn't count the fact that we have 72 vacant lots, and as we know, vacant lots don't go vacant too long. Somebody's going to put something on it. Somebody's got it, they're going to build on it, they're going to do something with it. So that number would have only ballooned, as you can see. That would have been up to a 150% increase in that. And that means that for literally, you know, in some ways dimes on dollars, maybe not pennies, but dimes on dollars, we were able to have a more resilient outcome that takes the burden of future monies coming in that can be used for other purposes. As we all know, the environment for federal money is coming isn't always as secure, and we've had some difficulties with that. I'd also like [to give] a big shout-out to North Carolina Emergency Management, who worked hand in glove with us toward the end here and making sure we got all of this done and helped us wrap up a lot of the details with the [program]. I very much appreciate their assistance in this. But it does show you that, you know, as one tool in the tool bag, buyout is a good, effective way to make something more resilient and save money in the future. Just like elevating a house keeps it safe, you don't spend as much on repairing it. Moving residents somewhere else and having vacant land returning to its natural use is flood plain management itself, where it does absorb that water and let it come up and let it recede. That is a good thing. I'll be glad to take any questions on the program overall or any specifics with it. Just fire away.
Thank you so much, appreciate that information, Jeff, and as promised, you know, we will have questions and answers at the end during the public comment period after the CAC committee members have a chance to ask their questions. So, thank you so much for giving us this information, and now we are going to move forward with community development projects and mitigation. Tracey Colores, thank you.
Tracey Colores: Thank you so much Jennifer, and Mayor Hardy it's great to see you again. Thank you for leading this review. We wanted to give the committee an update on where we stand on the projects being funded and the mitigation grant that includes two basic types of work. One is construction and the other is helping first-time home buyers become homeowners. And next slide, please. Thank you. This will look very similar to the page we showed you at the last update meeting because we wanted to make sure that we give you a chance to properly evaluate our project, our progress. You'll note that we have not had an increase in any of the number of projects we're doing as is appropriate for our office at this stage of its life cycle. We do have the 28 projects with a $149 million dollars’ worth of funding, $89.7 million of which is coming from our office. So, we're funding about two-thirds of the total costs of the development projects that we're doing. Those 28 projects include vital infrastructure, and we'll give you a couple of snapshots on that in the next couple of slides. Plus, housing development projects that are adding 367 apartments and single-family homes in the most impacted and distressed parts of eastern North Carolina following Matthew and Florence. And all that housing is going to be affordable to families earning no more than 80% of the average income for the area. As far as what's transpired since our last meeting with you, we were showing 50% completion on the infrastructure project portfolio. Now we are at two-thirds and seeing a lot of progress there that's very encouraging. And we have a couple of spotlights to show you, as I mentioned. And then with our affordable housing projects, they were only entering environmental clearance phase work when we met in July, but now 80% of them have achieved [inaudible] from HUD regarding our compliance with the national Environmental Protection Act, and that means that construction is set to begin on four projects in Duplin, Scotland and Pamlico counties. And that's where the majority of that 367 units of housing will be coming. We also are announcing today that we have successfully concluded the down payment assistance program, and as you'll recall, that provides down payment funding up to $30,000 per homeowner, as well as closing cost assistance up to 5% of the sales price, and we have been able to achieve that for 401 families buying homes in the most impacted and distressed counties for the two storms. That program has continued to be spotlighted nationally because of its innovative approach to providing additional funding for potential homebuyers who are first generation, meaning that their parents aren't homeowners. And so, like all of us who didn't have the advantage of parents that could give us down payment money, the first-generation buyers in the Homeownership Assistance Program funded with the mitigation grant have been able to get a little extra help to achieve their dream of homeownership. Next slide please.
This is one of the spotlights that I had mentioned earlier. In Bladen County, they had a real problem with the seven communities sharing the impact of flood-related or storm-related flood events, but as you know, it takes good knowledge of how the flood, the aerial flooding affects all of those communities in order to put together an effective plan for addressing it and minimizing the impact of future flood events and the cost of that plan. For drainage in the Bladen County communities listed in the first paragraph of this [slide] was over a million dollars. And so, we were very happy that the mitigation grant could come in and provide that money and as a result, now Bladen County has a an actionable plan that they can work on to make sure that they know where the at-risk assets are, where the areas of the most flood risk are located and what drainage improvements will give them the most bang for their buck to eliminate the highest risk for damage in future flood events. Next slide, please.
Another stormwater-related improvement is the town of Saint Paul. I'm not sure if everyone on the call is aware of this, but there were residents that had to be evacuated using emergency services [during] Hurricane Matthew in the area between Elizabeth Street and Johnson Street, and what our funding in the mitigation grant was able to do is to essentially beef up the floodwater drainage system for storms affecting that area, to essentially bypass that area. We have bypassed that area and tied into the rest of Saint Paul’s floodwater system, and while it sounds very simple and small, this project again needed over $1 million dollars of funding and it wasn't something that Saint Paul could take on by themselves without these federal dollars, so we were very glad that we could help with that project. And next slide please.
The town of Beulaville in Duplin County is working with a private developer to construct apartments affordable to families making up to 80% of the average in the area, and there's going to be 40 new apartments there and in the latest HUD tables of area median income, it says that for a family of four, they can earn up to little over $61,000 a year and still be eligible for these apartments, [which] will be very attractive and have the site was chosen by the folks. Beulaville and with the mitigation grant award of $9.7 million dollars, it covers 98% of the total cost of construction of that project, and because it [the project has] these subsidy dollars, not only will the apartments be affordable when they are first occupied, but they're going to be kept affordable for the next 20 years. And the folks in Beulaville have told us that they really needed this housing for all the folks that keep the town going with educators and the first responders and folks that contribute to the economic development and potential economic growth in the area. So, we are very glad that we've been able to support that with this grant. Next slide, please.
The last project that we wanted to spotlight for you today is Candy Park in Pembroke in Robeson County. This award was to the Lumbee Tribe for $7.4 million dollars and they are combining with other funding sources to construct 30 new single-family homes in the Candy Park community, which is a large, well-designed project that the tribe has been working on in the area. And I wanted to make sure I shared it with you, even though as you can see, we don't have any structures coming up out of the ground or anything yet because it is quite new and is the only project in the housing development portfolio that's building single-family housing for homeownership. And again, it's going to be affordable for families earning up to 80% of the area median income, and that same family of four, that same $61,100 a year. So, it will be able to reach folks that are committed to making the area grow and thrive. Again, we're very excited about this project coming to fruition. Next slide please.
I have included the table that was in the July report so that you can again monitor how well we are doing on percent completed. You'll notice that a number of projects are now at 100% percent complete versus what we shared with you in July, and many others are much closer. You can check the location of project and descriptions, as well as the funding and percentage complete on this. Happy to answer any questions about specific projects that you may have, but other than that, I just appreciate that you are interested in wanting to make sure that we're staying on task with our developments. Next project. I mean next slide please. Actually, I guess two more slides.
And one more. There we go. Thank you. As I mentioned in the summary page, we have concluded the Homeownership Assistance Program. This program, as we talked about, has helped 101 families become first-time homeowners in the counties that you see on the map, which were the counties declared most impacted and distressed for either Matthew Florence, or both. The only county that we were unable to serve with this program was Jones, which as you probably know is our least populated county, and we applaud the team for being able to infuse these dollars into the other 15 most impacted and distressed counties and to do a good job of ensuring that the funds went to folks who needed the help to become first-time homebuyers with $3.2 million dollars awarded overall. And as you may remember from our last presentation on this program, not only does this program provide the funding for down payment and also for closing costs, it ensures that the homeowners, the homebuyers, complete a pre-purchase homebuyer education program that is certified by HUD and delivered by a HUD certified housing counseling agent to ensure that they know what they're getting into to the extent that anyone does when they become a homebuyer because all of those extra things tend to pop up. And then the other thing that I'll add about this is just as a reminder for this program that we made sure that since one of the goals was to help families begin to accumulate wealth and get on the property ladder and be able to move up, since most of us have accumulated wealth through homeownership, we made sure that as long as the home buyers stayed in the home as their primary residence for at least three years, they didn't have to pay back any of the down-payment assistance money. Because we want them to build a future in the area and contribute to the local economy. I’m happy to answer any other questions about that, and I believe that's the end of my slides.
Jennifer Holmes: Thank you so much to all of NCORR that presented today, this is just a reminder that as they were talking, as they were discussing all the good things that we were able to do with these mitigation dollars, keep in mind that the conversation doesn't stop here. If you have any questions for them, or even if you are not a committee member and you may have a question for a committee member, we will coordinate that assistance with them as well. So, you can always email at NCORR.CAC@ncdps.gov. And now I will hand it back over to you, Mayor Hardy, to open the floor for any comments or questions from the committee members first, then we will proceed with the public. Thank you.
Mayor Don Hardy: So, before we go on to questions, I think I need a motion to approve the previous minutes from the last meeting that we had. So, if we could get a roll call, I would like to entertain a motion to approve the minutes of the previous meeting that we had before we move on to Q and A let me.
Mayor Pro Tem Owen Thomas: Motion [inaudible].
Mayor Don Hardy: Is there a second on this motion?
Keith Graham: I second the motion.
Mayor Don Hardy: Good, second emotion under discussion. Jennifer, if you would do a roll call.
Jennifer Holmes: Oh, sure, absolutely. Bear with me for one moment. Okay, so of course we have Owen Thomas. We have Tomme Maier that took over Jeralene's position. We have Keith Graham, Charles Wright, Mr. Hardy, yourself, we have Brad Lovin, we have Kitti Hardison, and Laressa Witt.
Mayor Don Hardy: And if you would call those individuals by name and request a yes or no vote.
Jennifer Holmes: Mr. Thomas Owen, can you say yes or no, please? You can unmute yourself. Thank you. Make sure I say the name right Tomme, is it [pronounced] Tommy? I apologize. You can come off mute and give your vote, Tomme Maier of Duplin Christian Outreach Ministries?
Jennifer Holmes: Keith Graham, yes or no?
Keith Graham: Yes.
Jennifer Holmes: Yes or no? The sound is going in and out. We'll skip him, Mr. Hardy. Brad Lovin, yes or no, please?
Brad Lovin: Yes.
Jennifer Holmes: Kitti Hardison? Yes or no?
Kitti Hardison: To me? Yes, okay.
Jennifer Holmes: Larissa with yes or no? Okay, thank you, Mr. Hardy. Alright.
Mayor Don Hardy: Confirming Tomme Maier
Jennifer Holmes: I'm sorry, Tomme, can you say yes or no, please?
Tomme Maier: Yes, thanks.
Mayor Don Hardy: Thank you much. That motion carries. I just wanted to make sure we got that squared away. We do it the legal way here.
Jennifer Holmes: Thank you.
Mayor Don Hardy: Anyone from the committee? Right? I guess we can move on from Q and A to public comments, if you would like to do that, Jennifer?
Jennifer Holmes: We can go ahead and start public comment. Remember in the public comments to keep your question or comment to three minutes, and then of course, if you think of anything else and you're not able to say it here today, you can always email us at NCORR.CAC@NCDPS.gov. So now the floor is open to anyone that wants to come off mute that has a question or comment.
Mayor Don Hardy: Any questions from the public or public comments? Any questions?
Laressa Witt: I don't have any questions, but I can say the numbers are impressive with the mitigation for future storms and how much the cost savings is. So that's great. And then all the money for those first-time homebuyers, that's impressive. And what a great opportunity for those families.
Mayor Don Hardy: Thank you, Laressa, for those comments. Yes, Keith?
Keith Graham: First, I'd like to say I'm loving the bowtie. Normally, I have my bow tie on, though I don't have it today but you represent very well. I want to say from being around from the beginning of this process, watching the questions, watching the progress, and seeing where things are landing is very, very impressive. Even in the midst of, no pun intended, the storms of the process itself, this is very refreshing. It makes me proud to have been part of this committee to see progress of things and success. Also, just to remind you that I was not only on this committee, but I was also a hurricane victim as well, and I received my keys and moved into my home back in May, and I’m loving it. And it is so refreshing to be out of the hotel, and back into my own space, I've been comfortable. So, thank God for this program and all the hard work and efforts that have been put into it from everyone along the way from the beginning to now. So, thank you very much to everyone for everything you've done.
Mayor Don Hardy: Thank you, Keith. I do appreciate you and thank you for being a strong advocate for the program and I'm glad that you are back in your home. And that's always good to hear, you know, especially from somebody on the team who has experienced it. This was tragic, you know, it was bad. Hurricanes Matthew and Florence, it was tough for a lot of folks, so it's always good to hear the good news. Will there be any others that would like to ask a question or give any comments? Any other from the public or committee? Then I would just like to say, I do appreciate the efforts of NCORR, Pryor and the entire team. Jennifer, I also appreciate you and everything you've done to help pull us together on these calls and trying to get everybody to the meeting. I know it's a task with all the busy schedules that we have, but I do appreciate you and everything you're doing. And I thank the entire team, NCORR and DPS, you guys are amazing. I do appreciate you pushing these programs and advocating for those that need it most in the time that they need it most, especially during these natural disasters that take place throughout our state. So, thank you very much.
Having said that, I just want to reemphasize the proposed spring meeting dates which are on Fridays in May – May 1, 8, 15 and 29. That's Fridays in May for proposed dates, so I guess Jennifer will push that out and we'll figure out what dates work with everybody's schedule.
Jennifer Holmes: That's correct, and just a reminder that you do have some renewals coming up, so you will see some renewal letters that will be going out. We really hope that you will continue the great service that you do and continue to be committee members here for the CAC for the mitigation grant. So, thank you Chairman Hardy for guiding us through the agenda today. We really appreciate everyone's participation. The recording and transcript of this meeting, along with all previous ones, are posted on our website at rebuild.nc.gov/CAC-meetings. If there's nothing else to conclude, I hope that everyone has a great day and we look forward to seeing you in the spring. So, Mr. Hardy, do you have anything else?
Mayor Don Hardy: I just have one thing − if we could get the slides. Could the slide deck be emailed? Okay, that would be good. That’s all I have, I don't have anything else, so I'm good.
Jennifer Holmes: Okay, we'll get those resent out to you, more than likely first thing Monday morning.
Mayor Don Hardy: Okay, look, thank you much. Well, Merry Christmas to you all and Happy New Year as well. I guess I can say that because we won't see you or hear from you until then, unless we reach out to you directly. Alright, I'm good. I yield back to you Jennifer. Anything further?
Jennifer Holmes: All right, that's it. We will see you all in the spring of 2026. Thank you. Have a great day.
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